Bobertron comments on [META] 'Rational' vs 'Optimized' - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Bobertron 04 January 2012 11:44:31PM 1 point [-]

I assume you mean formulations (especially post titles) like "rational home buying", "rational childcare" or "rational dating".

While I do not like those formulations, I like formulations that replace "rational" with "optimal" even less. To me the word "optimal" is mostly a mathematical term (Wikipedia redirects optimal to mathematical optimization) and does not acknowledge that humans have complex values, limited knowledge and resources and that there are costs in those activities. Also I understand "optimal" to mean maximally good. If something could be better, it's not yet optimal. That means something like optimal childcare might require super human capabilities.

Formulations like "rational home buying" sound silly and even cultish, because "rational" is completely redundant here (it makes you wonder why they won't shut up about their favorite subject "rationality"). "Rational home buying" is just about home buying. No one is is deliberately irrational. I'd suggest to just say "home buying", unless you really want to contrast it with irrational home buying.

Comment author: see 05 January 2012 12:44:39AM 3 points [-]

No one is is deliberately irrational.

Wanna bet?

Comment author: hamnox 05 January 2012 05:25:23AM 5 points [-]

I was. For a couple of years I would do things with no other justification than because it was a silly thing to do or because no one would ever expect it*. I recall I had some sort of weird meta-rationalization for it at one point, but that was quickly lost in the chaos.

Deliberate irrationality is not a hobby I'd suggest taking up any time soon. I still have a habit of fixating on the most ludicrous, worst possible thing to do in any given situation, and it takes significant mental effort to make myself not do it.

*NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!!!

Comment author: Swimmer963 17 January 2012 03:55:47PM 0 points [-]

How about 'strategic home buying'? See comment by Zed above. I think this makes it much more obvious what you actually mean.