elinws comments on Can the Chain Still Hold You? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Vivi 15 January 2012 08:24:24PM 1 point [-]

This is rather misleading. You have not accounted for other variables that may have influenced gibbon behavior. Moreover, this anecdote does little to support your initial point, which seems to have been forgotten altogether at the conclusion. You neglected to elaborate on gibbon diet, which I assume is your main example. The information that you have given on their development seems unnecessary. Also, you misspelled several pronouns, and neglected to show possession. I still see no relevance in your comment.

Comment author: elinws 17 January 2012 05:09:24PM -1 points [-]

Sorry I was unclear and yes, I indulged myself on the development because I think it is so neat.

To clarify the conclusion I am proposing that diet may be the key to social structure in both the baboon and gibbon case – high quality food -> non-hierarchical and pacifist – low quality food -> hierarchical and aggressive.

Since diet part of the experience of the animal is it nature or nurture or something in else? Does the diet trigger a genetic reaction or is it that with secure access to high quality food there is no reason for hierarchy and aggression?

And yes, it should be, “The pair sing together in the mornings and evenings to proclaim THEIR territories” not "there territories". Thank you.

Comment author: Vivi 18 January 2012 01:34:24AM 1 point [-]

But, food only euthanized the aggressive baboons in the previous example. That does not reflect a high quality diet.