mwengler comments on Dead Child Currency - Less Wrong

14 Post author: jkaufman 09 January 2012 06:46PM

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Comment author: mwengler 09 January 2012 09:05:48PM 14 points [-]

As a matter of pedagogy, I think you would be better off telling them how many children had to die so you could have your house, or your car, or your last vacation. What you are doing seems too much to me like singling someone out for embarassment which I would imagine would alienate many students rendering you relatively useless as a teacher.

Comment author: James_Miller 09 January 2012 09:22:29PM 0 points [-]

I think you would be better off telling them how many children had to die so you could have your house, or your car, or your last vacation.

No -- It's better to show how economics relates to their lives than mine.

singling someone out for embarrassment

No, because they know I could have done the same to anyone.

Comment author: TimS 09 January 2012 10:13:26PM 9 points [-]

No, because they know I could have done the same to anyone.

For better or worse, this is not psychologically reassuring to the student picked for the example. It's a cognitive bias, but that doesn't mean that singling out a student was low-risk. That said, you were there, and thus had a better sense of whether the benefit was worth the risk.

Comment author: James_Miller 09 January 2012 10:17:32PM 0 points [-]

Interesting, does the bias have a specific name?

Comment author: shminux 09 January 2012 11:13:22PM *  4 points [-]

It probably does, but I tend to call it the "Why Me?" mode of thinking, people looking for an underlying reason for the bad things that happen to them by pure chance.

Comment author: TimS 10 January 2012 03:37:30AM *  3 points [-]

I'm not sure if the dynamic I was referencing has a specific description. But it is the case that in ordinary society, X can be true, everyone can know X is true, and someone declaring X is true will receive negative feedback. Cognitive-behavioral therapy might call it a part of the avoidance dynamic.

All I'm really trying to say is that college students who lack self-reflection can be giant pains for college professors. And someone upset by being singled out (per your example) has a reasonable justification for the emotional reaction, which the idiot the link discusses definitely does not.

Comment author: RomeoStevens 15 January 2012 12:30:56AM 3 points [-]

the depressing reality is that the child in the emperor's new clothes would have been lynched.

Comment author: AlexanderRM 03 September 2015 01:23:59AM 0 points [-]

The specific story described is perfectly plausible, because it involves political pressure rather than social, and (due to the technology level and the like) the emperor's guards can't kill everybody in the crowd, so once everyone starts laughing they're safe. However, as a metaphor for social pressure it certainly is overly optimistic by a long shot.

Comment author: AlexanderRM 03 September 2015 01:21:36AM 0 points [-]

I would really like to know the name for that dynamic if it has one, because that's very useful.