Raemon comments on Designing Ritual - Less Wrong

25 Post author: Raemon 11 January 2012 01:52AM

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Comment author: Raemon 12 January 2012 07:33:29PM *  3 points [-]

Sorry, I did mean to do that but due to lack of time (and due to me not making money of this and stating a few times I had collected existing songs) it fell by the wayside. I realize it's not that hard, there were just a bunch of other not-that-hard things that needed doing. I'll get to it in the near future.

Related note: does anyone know offhand the rules about making money off a book that includes properly attributed lyrics to songs you didn't write? I'm assuming rights-holders must be individually contacted and compensated, but wasn't sure. Among my possible projects for the next year (or two) is a "General Audience" version of the book which is less transhumanist, properly attributed, fully illustrated, and otherwise classier. It would be available for free online but potentially sold on demand to people who wanted a nice printed edition.

Comment author: thomblake 12 January 2012 07:53:08PM 1 point [-]

IANAL, but generally printing song lyrics for the purposes of singing them is not fair use, and you would have to work out rights for printing with each of the intellectual property holders.

Comment author: Raemon 12 January 2012 08:00:53PM 0 points [-]

That is what I figured. (Does that apply even to strictly free things? Should I be concerned about the uploaded pdf, attributed or no?)

Comment author: thomblake 12 January 2012 08:05:37PM 0 points [-]

In theory, making copies of the work of others is a violation of their intellectual property, unless you've been conferred that right, regardless of whether you're making money.

In practice, if you are not making money, then it is difficult to establish damages, and so a court case will ordinarily not be pursued.

Comment author: Anubhav 13 January 2012 12:52:16PM *  2 points [-]

In practice, there are statutory damages on the order of a few hundred thousand dollars, but the chances of things getting that bad are astronomically low.

I doubt any rightsholder is looking over stuff that LW members put out. They generally target people downloading off 'pirate sites', who they then send nastygrams to the effect of 'That's a nice house you got there. Wouldn't want anything happening to it, would you? Now send us some cash or we call in the lawyers and sue your ass for a million bucks.'

Anyhow, you should be fine with a pdf you released to some obscure site, even if it's not technically legal.

(Come to think of it, I'm not sure that the risk of getting sued increases that much if you print and sell it. But it is seen as more socially unacceptable.)

Disclosure: IP-related issues have a mind-killing effect on me, might be best to take everything I say with a grain of salt.