Viliam_Bur comments on The problem with too many rational memes - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Viliam_Bur 18 January 2012 01:18:11PM *  7 points [-]

It felt like being forced to use your nicely sharpened tools on a task that would destroy them.

I like this metaphor! For example, if you are not allowed to criticize, you sometimes cannot say your true rejection, because it would include a criticism of something someone already said.

Perhaps it depends on definition of "criticism". Whoever says their opinion first, has an advantage. If someone has aleady said "X", what exactly is allowed or disallowed to say? Can I just say, calmly, "non-X"? Sometimes this is resolved by politely saying "I believe non-X" (pretending that all beliefs are equal, and no evidence exists). Then, is it allowed to say things like "I believe non-X, because evidence points towards non-X"? Are we allowed to use evidence, when the evidence is detrimental to other people's stated opinions?

Comment author: TheOtherDave 18 January 2012 03:29:32PM 5 points [-]

In environments like that, I generally go with "Y". If Y implies not-X, so much the better.