multifoliaterose comments on The Singularity Institute's Arrogance Problem - Less Wrong

63 Post author: lukeprog 18 January 2012 10:30PM

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Comment author: multifoliaterose 19 January 2012 01:50:47PM *  8 points [-]

(a) My experience with the sociology of academia has been very much in line with what Lukeprog's friend, Shminux and RolfAndreassen describe. This is the culture that I was coming from in writing my post titled Existential Risk and Public Relations. Retrospectively I realize that the modesty norm is unusually strong in academia and to that extent I was off-base in my criticism.

The modesty norms have some advantages and disadvantages. I think that it's appropriate for even the best people take the view "I'm part of a vast undertaking; if I hadn't gotten there first it's not unlikely that someone else would have gotten there within a few decades." However, I'm bothered by the fact that the norm is so strong that innocuous questions/comments which quite are weak signals of immodesty are frowned upon.

(b) I agree with cousin it that it would be good for SIAI staff to "communicate more carefully, like Holden Karnofsky or Carl Shulman."

Comment author: XiXiDu 19 January 2012 05:17:37PM 8 points [-]

I agree with cousin it that it would be good for SIAI staff to "communicate more carefully, like Holden Karnofsky or Carl Shulman."

I agree with this. I probably would have never voiced any skepticism/criticism if most SI/LW folks would be more like Holden Karnofsky, Carl Shulman, Nick Bostrom or cousin_it.