shminux comments on POSITION: Design and Write Rationality Curriculum - Less Wrong

54 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 19 January 2012 06:50AM

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Comment author: shminux 19 January 2012 05:24:57PM 17 points [-]

My point is that you might be trying to fill a wrong position.

A qualified part-time volunteer coordinator can do orders of magnitude more good for a non-profit than a full time staff member working on their own. Consider, for example, the VanDusen Botanical Garden. All grounds-keeping and nearly all activities are done by volunteers, with a single coordinator on staff. Some of these volunteer jobs, like the Master Gardener, would be equivalent to probably $50/hr on an open market, maybe more. Some smaller organizations even go one level up, and have a volunteer volunteer coordinator.

Of course, it is harder to properly parcel the jobs in the SI than those in gardening. Then again, none of you in the SI do what you do because you wanted it easy.

Comment author: Armok_GoB 20 January 2012 07:29:36PM 7 points [-]

Next step up is the volunteer volunteer volunteer coordinator coordinator.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 20 January 2012 07:44:02PM 6 points [-]

In a meeting this morning I suggested that my company was well on its way to needing a development process management suggestion management process manager. Nobody actually threw anything at me, which I attribute to my having been on the phone.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 21 January 2012 09:28:04AM 5 points [-]

I am amused by the fact that both of these reports obey the rule - universal in my experience so far - that "All infinite recursions are at most three levels deep."

Comment author: TheOtherDave 21 January 2012 05:49:13PM 2 points [-]

Three?
Hm.
By my parsing, it's ((((((development process) management) suggestion) management) process) manager)... that is, a manager for the process of managing suggestions for managing the process of development. What's your parsing?

Of course, it isn't embedded, which makes it much more parseable.

"The goat the cat the dog the stick the fire the water the cow the butcher slaughtered drank extinguished consumed hit ate bit was purchased for the two zuzim my father spent" is a different matter.

Comment author: bogdanb 22 January 2012 11:23:22PM *  3 points [-]

Recursion technically implies means “doing something to (something derived from) the result of doing that same thing earlier”, not just “doing stuff repeatedly”. There are three “management” steps above.

Comment author: TheOtherDave 23 January 2012 12:44:05AM 3 points [-]

You're right, of course. I was thinking about nesting depth. Thanks for the correction.

Comment author: Will_Sawin 21 January 2012 10:13:43AM -1 points [-]

One can derive an obvious corollary to this rule...