Sly comments on AI Box Role Plays - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Sly 26 January 2012 07:38:18AM 2 points [-]

What makes you think someone trying to win a roleplaying game is more committed to an action then someone trying to not destroy the whole world?

A good gatekeeper should be harder to convince than a roleplayer, because his situation matters.

Comment author: MileyCyrus 26 January 2012 07:58:32AM 1 point [-]

An actual gamekeeper could be persuaded to open the box if the consequences of opening the box were better than the consequences of not opening the box. A roleplayer will disregard any in-game consequences in order to "win".

Comment author: Sly 26 January 2012 08:09:45AM 1 point [-]

What if I use a gatekeeper who thinks he is just in an elaborate role-play, and I tell him to win. You assume an awful lot about the gatekeepers.

Comment author: MileyCyrus 26 January 2012 05:49:03PM 0 points [-]

The AI can disprove that hypothesis by providing next weeks lottery numbers.

Comment author: Sly 26 January 2012 06:07:12PM 0 points [-]

How would it do that inside the box? You are vastly overestimating it's abilities by orders of magnitude.

No wonder we have such differing opinions.

Comment author: MileyCyrus 26 January 2012 11:14:53PM 0 points [-]

Read the rules, particularly the parts about cancer cures.

Comment author: Sly 26 January 2012 11:32:50PM 2 points [-]

Reading those rules I see that:

The Gatekeeper party may resist the AI party's arguments by any means chosen - logic, illogic, simple refusal to be convinced, even dropping out of character - as long as the Gatekeeper party does not actually stop talking to the AI party before the minimum time expires.

So yeah.

Comment author: MileyCyrus 26 January 2012 11:49:49PM *  0 points [-]

You asked how the AI would be able to provide next week's lottery numbers. This section of the rules has nothing to do with that.

I have given you more than enough chances to demonstrate that you care about playing as an actual gatekeeper would. I have another offer from someone who will be a better sport.

Comment author: Sly 27 January 2012 03:09:09AM 1 point [-]

It is unfortunate that you think a winning strategy is not being a good sport, when it is specifically OKed in the passage I quoted.

I will play exactly as I would were I an actual gatekeeper. If I were a real gatekeeper, I would win.

Comment author: MileyCyrus 27 January 2012 03:59:31AM 0 points [-]

I have no doubt that you would "win", if by "win" you mean "keep the box closed".