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26 Post author: Multiheaded 25 January 2012 05:43PM

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Comment author: [deleted] 26 January 2012 03:35:54AM 2 points [-]

It sort of sounds like you're saying sex produces the warm fuzzies of closer social bonding regardless of whether the participants are attracted to each other.

Nope. I just mean mean it's totally OK to be attracted and so on. It's less radical than you seem to think.

Comment author: Prismattic 26 January 2012 03:46:12AM *  3 points [-]

My original response didn't disagree with that. I wasn't objecting to the "incest is fine" part. I was specifically challenging '...and is probably a good experience to have" as being an overgeneralization that is untrue for many, and probably, most people.

Comment author: drethelin 26 January 2012 04:14:09AM 8 points [-]

How is it different than saying "Sex is fine, and is probably a good experience to have" in response to puritanical notions about celibacy? Nowhere does it say it should be mandatory or that you absolutely have to have sex with anyone who asks.

Comment author: Prismattic 26 January 2012 04:53:33AM *  5 points [-]

"Sex (insert qualifiers of your choosing) is immoral" is a normative claim.
"Many people are not attracted to family members, and sex with an unattractive partner does not provide warm fuzzies" is an empirical claim.

"Sex is probably a good experience to have" is challenging the validity of the moral claim.
"Sex with people you aren't attracted to is probably a good experience to have"... do I really need to provide further refutation once it's stated like that?