thomblake comments on "Stuck In The Middle With Bruce" - Less Wrong

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Comment author: swestrup 09 April 2009 06:25:27AM 1 point [-]

I have a Magic deck, but I don't often play. That's because Magic is not only an interesting game, its been carefully designed to continually suck more money out of your pocket.

Ever since it was first introduced (I happen to own a first generation deck) the game has been slowly increasing the power levels of the cards so that older cards are less and less valuable and one needs to buy ever more newer cards just to stay competitive.

Add to this the fact they regularly bring out new types of cards that radically shift the power balances in the game and one finds that it becomes a very expensive hobby to keep up with if you want to play with a random assortment of your friends.

So, like Warhammer 40K (another game known for being designed to be a money sink), I've deliberately stayed away from being competitive at. Oh, I have a few decks back from when the game was launched and recently was gifted another few by a friend who wanted to play, and I really do enjoy playing, but I'm not going to let myself get sucked in.

Comment author: thomblake 09 April 2009 01:06:50PM 4 points [-]

its been carefully designed to continually suck more money out of your pocket.

The game was actually designed without the 'collectable' element, which emerged naturally from the design process since everybody always wanted access to more/newer cards as they played. See any of the various histories regarding Richard Garfield's original concept and playtesting.

Arguably, the focus on sucking money out of your pocket came about the time the cards began to develop aftermarket values, it became widely popular, and events like sanctioned tournaments and the 'pro tour' began ('94-'96)

Comment author: swestrup 09 April 2009 07:35:51PM 0 points [-]

I find it 'interesting' that we've both had our posts voted down to zero. Could it be that someone objects to pointing out that the game is a money sink and therefore one might have perfectly rational reasons to avoid it?

Comment author: Z_M_Davis 09 April 2009 07:54:17PM 2 points [-]

Posts now start at zero, with self-voting no longer allowed.

Comment author: swestrup 10 April 2009 02:29:04AM 0 points [-]

Ah, interesting. That was not considered important enough to get into the RSS feed, so I never saw it.

Comment author: MrHen 10 April 2009 01:24:27AM 0 points [-]

In addition to what Z M Davis said, I voted both of your posts down because I felt they added nothing useful to the discussion. Thomblake's was just information responding to yours, so I left it alone.

This comment isn't meant as arrogant or aggressive, just an explanation since it seems you've asked for one.

To directly answer your question:

Could it be that someone objects to pointing out that the game is a money sink and therefore one might have perfectly rational reasons to avoid it?

I do not object to the comment, but I think it is less valuable than other comments. Hope that helps.

Comment author: swestrup 10 April 2009 02:31:45AM 4 points [-]

That, of course, is your opinion and you're welcome to it. But I thought that I was (perhaps too verbosely to be clear) pointing out that this the original article was yet-another post on Less Wrong that seemed to be saying.

"Do X. Its the rational thing to do. If you don't do X, you aren't rational."

I was trying to point out that there may be many rational reasons for not doing X.