tjohnson314 comments on Extreme Rationality: It's Not That Great - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Fossegrimen 08 May 2015 07:28:23AM *  5 points [-]

Huh.

I did the same thing and came to the exact opposite conclusion and have been commuting by two-wheeler for 15 years now.

What swayed me was:

A huge proportion of the accidents involved really excessive speed.

A similarly huge proportion happened to untrained motorcyclists.

So: If I don't speed (much) and take the time to practice regularly on a track, preferably with an instructor, I have eliminated just about all the serious accidents. In actuality I have had zero accidents outside the track, and the "accidents" on the track has been to deliberately test the limits of myself and the bike. (and on a bike designed to take slides without permanent damage)

The cash savings are higher in Europe due to taxes on fuel and vehicles and the size of the bike is more appreciated in cities that are designed in the middle ages, so the upside is larger too, but it seems that we don't have anything like the same risk tolerance.

edit: also it is possible that motorcycling is a lot safer in Europe than the US? assuming you are from the US ofc.

Comment author: tjohnson314 14 May 2015 05:42:48PM 1 point [-]

I'm from California, where it's legal to split lanes. Most places don't allow that.

I could just decide not to, but the ability to skip traffic that way is probably the single largest benefit of having a motorcycle.

Comment author: Fossegrimen 28 May 2015 07:51:38AM 0 points [-]

Most states don't allow that, but in Europe it's standard practice. I probably wouldn't bother with the bike if I couldn't.