mas comments on Rationality Quotes February 2012 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: mas 01 February 2012 10:59:03PM *  1 point [-]

Within ten days thou wilt seem a god to those to whom thou art now a beast and an ape, if thou wilt return to thy principles and to worshiping of reason

Marcus Aurelius, Meditations.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 16 February 2012 03:07:06AM 12 points [-]

The intended listener must be doing an awful lot of stuff they already know is wrong. Ten days is a pretty short period of time to impress people as a god, and it usually requires more training and practice to get there. Heck, I still only impress people as a god around 10% of the time, and it took me 17 years to get here from when I first dedicated myself to rationality.

Comment author: Tyrrell_McAllister 16 February 2012 06:36:17AM 2 points [-]

The intended listener must be doing an awful lot of stuff they already know is wrong.

My understanding is that the intended listener was himself. He wrote the Meditations for his own benefit, to be read by himself to strengthen his own resolve. And indeed he does characterize himself as doing a lot of stuff that he knows is wrong.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 18 February 2012 04:51:34PM 1 point [-]

Your likelihood of being seen as a god is also dependent on what sort of people are looking at you.

Comment author: Normal_Anomaly 02 February 2012 10:24:54PM 2 points [-]

Should "seen a god" there be "seem a god"?

More substantially, isn't this basically saying "Believe X because then you'll get status"?

Comment author: mas 03 February 2012 12:51:13AM 1 point [-]

I fixed it, thank you very much.

I interpreted it to mean that if you adhere to logical principles based on a rational view of reality, you will be better because you do so.

So, yes you're right. I would just change it to this: Do X because then you'll get status.

While status isn't the focus, it could (and likely will be) a product of what you're doing.