army1987 comments on Rationality Quotes February 2012 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: wedrifid 02 February 2012 03:14:38PM *  7 points [-]

Do not fear to be eccentric in opinion, for every opinion now accepted was once eccentric.

That advice seems to be predicated on poor reasoning. Not only are most eccentric opinions that have been held not accepted, those that gain the benefit of the eccentric opinions on their way to being accepted are not necessarily those that first hold them.

Comment author: [deleted] 02 February 2012 06:16:34PM 1 point [-]

Not only are most eccentric opinions that have been held not accepted those that gain the benefit of the eccentric opinions on their way to being accepted are not necessarily those that first hold them.

I gave up trying to parse that sentence after the third attempt. Punctuation exists for a reason! :-)

Comment author: gwern 02 February 2012 07:41:15PM *  9 points [-]

No no, it's not that bad if you try to figure out where the commas go:

Not only are most eccentric opinions that have been held not accepted, those that gain the benefit of the eccentric opinions on their way to being accepted, are not necessarily those that first hold them.

So to rewrite with fewer negations:

Most eccentric opinions are not ultimately accepted. And when those rare eccentric opinions get accepted, their original accepters don't benefit much; but instead, the credit or rewards are reaped by those who accept them later in the acceptance process.