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Either both are true, or neither.
Yeah, I spent a few minutes as I was falling asleep trying to rationalize that but don't remember if I came up with anything sensible.
ETA: Something to do with metaphors and level-crossing.
How's that then? Suppose Gombrich is Hing a NC, it doesn't follow that anyone who can HaNC can make us see nonexistent thread; perhaps it's necessary but not sufficient. On the other hand, maybe it is true that anyone who can HaNC can make us see things, but Gombrich is fumbling his needle- it's just not noticeable because the thread actually exists in that case.