brazil84 comments on Beware of Other-Optimizing - Less Wrong

79 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 10 April 2009 01:58AM

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Comment author: brazil84 24 December 2013 03:26:40PM 1 point [-]

I think part of the problem is subconscious status-seeking. If you give someone advice, it kind of puts you in a high status position relative to the recipient of the advice.

But you've got to try telling Eliezer Yudkowsky. He needs it, and there's a pretty good chance that he'll understand.

Perhaps part of it is that Yudkowsky has high status in this community. So that status-seekers will be especially tempted to give advice to Yudkowsky.

Comment author: hyporational 24 December 2013 07:45:03PM 0 points [-]

I think part of the problem is subconscious status-seeking. If you give someone advice, it kind of puts you in a high status position relative to the recipient of the advice.

Lots of it is probably deliberate, and would also make sense for maximising visibility even if you don't care about status per se. Giving unwanted help can also work to lower the recipient's status in addition to raising your status, the effects depend on situational factors and how the help is offered.

Comment author: brazil84 24 December 2013 08:10:49PM 0 points [-]

Lots of it is probably deliberate,

Well the line between deliberate and subconscious is always a bit blurry.