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Comment author: Grognor 08 February 2012 02:24:08PM *  8 points [-]

A much smarter human population will probably be morally, as well as cognitively, enhanced—the "evil genius" problem isn't necessarily a realistic one to worry about.

This is something I think I've noticed. If it is true, then why is it true? Some hypotheses:

  • Smart people spend more time reading and less time watching movies and television shows - ethics in books are superior/are recalled better
  • Smart people read the works of other smart people - only morally sound writing survives over time, so less exposure to unethical stuff
  • Smart people are more likely to notice cognitive dissonance and more likely to do something about it in the event of being about to commit a questionable act
  • Smart people spend more time thinking about their actions
  • Smart people have more recall of bad things others have done to them and are unwilling to put others through similar situations
  • Smart people spend more time considering the consequences of their actions

And, in the interest of the virtue of evenness (I could just be inventing ways to confirm my preconceptions, after all), some hypotheses about why smart people are less moral than non-smart people:

  • Smart people are isolated and tormented as youngsters and this makes them cynical and bitter
  • Smart people are "too far above" most people to empathize with them
  • Smart people can overcome petty obstacles like "empathy" and "guilt"
  • Smart people only care about the advancement of science, not what's actually good for people
  • Thinking about ethics for too long makes you reject them all?

That second list was much harder to come up with than the first one. Here's hoping I'm just plain right, and that's the reason why.

Anyone want to do some science to figure out which, if any, of these guesses is true?

Comment author: grouchymusicologist 08 February 2012 04:09:12PM 4 points [-]

Interesting ideas -- I can think of a few more. On the "smart = more moral" side:

  • Smart people are more likely to be able to call on Kahneman's System 2 when necessary, which correlates with utilitarian judgments (see this paper by Joshua Greene et al.). Similarly, they're more likely to have the mental resources to resist their worst impulses, if they want to resist them.
  • Note that some of your "smart = less moral" proposals concern a world in which some people are much smarter than others. If cognitive enhancement were widespread, we might get its moral benefits without the drawbacks of smart people suffering social stigmas of various kinds (your first two bullets in the second set).
  • Being much smarter might include being much better at interpersonal skills, increasing empathy for others.
  • Likewise, if there are morality network effects -- as in the tendency for well-organized societies to be less violent -- then a smarter overall population might be very much more moral.

On the "smart = less moral" side:

  • If cognitive enhancement happens such that some people are much, much smarter than others, the temptation for the much smarter people to use their intelligence to take advantage of the less-smart people may be simply too great to resist. Presumably even very, very smart people will have their price.

By and large, I think I'd agree with you that it seems right that a smarter human population would be more moral, but it's by no means certain.

Comment author: gwern 08 February 2012 08:49:51PM 3 points [-]

Smart people tend to be more cooperative and accepting of economic deals, IIRC; following refs from http://lesswrong.com/lw/7e1/rationality_quotes_september_2011/4r37

Comment author: Jayson_Virissimo 09 February 2012 08:31:23AM *  2 points [-]
  • Smart people are more moral because they have a greater ability to recognise what is in their self-interest and being moral is in their self-interest a significant proportion of the time (in other words, morality is instrumentally rational).

Note: I am not affirming this hypothesis, I'm merely think it is worth considering.

Comment author: Dmytry 09 February 2012 07:27:08AM *  0 points [-]

IMO its fairly straightforward. Morality requires intelligence just as construction of buildings that do not fail requires intelligence. To decide on an action based on some high level moral imperative, one needs to think a fair lot.

Most people are just too stupid to be moral. They were with their own hands murdering minorities if they were in right position in 3rd reich. They were burning witches. They aren't even facing a choice to be moral or not. They are hundred percent amoral as far as big picture goes. They need to obey very direct simple rules made by others, the end result might be moral-ish for good set of rules. They can't reason from their action to any high level moral imperative. In a discussion they'll say that you can't either. Hell they'll say it with emphasis, seeing it as virtue - the 'its wrong' kind of can't.

The intelligent people... A normal kid who's grown with presumption of mental disability, among mentally disabled, will play mentally disabled to get slack. So do many intelligent people grow up with such habit, spoiled by having plausible deniability of intent via being stupid.

In light of this I think that intelligence enhancement, in culture that does progress towards improved morality, would improve morality.

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