Daniel_Burfoot comments on The Unfinished Mystery of the Shangri-La Diet - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Daniel_Burfoot 11 April 2009 04:07:29AM *  18 points [-]

Any new diet will seem to work for a few months or weeks, you're losing weight and everything seems wonderful, you tell all your friends and they buy the same diet book, and then bam the flavor-calorie association kicks back in and you're back to hell. The number-one result of weight-loss science is that 95% of people who lose weight regain it.

This suggests that the important factor in weight loss has nothing to do with any specific diet. Rather the key is the sudden shock to the endocrinological system that goes along with starting a new diet. Given any stable diet, your system will adapt to keep you at a certain weight. But if you constantly change your diet, your system will never be able to adapt.

Proposal: the meta-diet. Get 12 wonder diet books. Mark each month with a corresponding diet (Jan. is Atkin's, Feb is Shangri-La, ...) Every month, ditch the previous diet without a second thought and scrupulously adhere to the new one.

Comment author: thomblake 14 April 2009 03:11:09PM 4 points [-]

Proposal: the meta-diet.

I've seen this seriously suggested by dietary experts, but can't find the citation. Compare to similar strategies in defeating infections.

Comment author: SoullessAutomaton 11 April 2009 10:58:52AM 6 points [-]

Or just invent new "diets". e.g., "This month I will only eat foods that start with the letter P."

Comment author: Viliam_Bur 20 September 2011 09:18:57AM 5 points [-]

I hereby officially declare October a Pizza Month! :D

Comment author: polymathwannabe 15 October 2015 05:03:59PM *  1 point [-]
Comment author: probDot5 15 October 2015 02:08:17PM -1 points [-]

I can just feel the pounds dropping away!

Comment author: jimrandomh 11 April 2009 04:14:07AM 6 points [-]

The problem with that strategy is that the more diets you try, the more likely it is that at least one of them is seriously harmful.

Comment author: billswift 25 April 2009 11:18:17PM 0 points [-]

Provided you aren't already malnourished, NO diet, even starvation, is going to be harmful over the course of one month.

Comment author: JulianMorrison 25 April 2009 11:56:33PM 4 points [-]

100% not true. Ignoring actual poisons, overemphasis in some foods might make you ill, underemphasis might make you ill, too little X might affect your ability to process Y, and just plain starving for a month will leave you with organ damage.

Comment author: billswift 26 April 2009 02:53:50PM 4 points [-]

You need to check your references more closely. I checked the last and what it actually said was:

prolonged starvation (in excess of 1–2 months) causes permanent organ damage[citation needed]

Notice it was in excess of 1-2 months, and it gave no citation.

I did realize another exception after I posted - if you have a problem like diabetes or several nutritional or metabolic disorders, you would also have problems.

Comment author: Nominull 25 April 2009 11:23:01PM -1 points [-]

Refusing to eat for a month isn't harmful? I'm not a nutritionist, but I find that claim absurd.