army1987 comments on Get Curious - Less Wrong

51 Post author: lukeprog 24 February 2012 05:10AM

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Comment author: [deleted] 23 February 2012 02:52:21PM 2 points [-]

Awesome. I'm going to keep that in mind. I only have a quibble about

Reward yourself for effort, not for results.

That could lead me to try but nowhere near as hard as I can, and making excuses when I fail.

Comment author: Mass_Driver 23 February 2012 03:15:45PM 3 points [-]

To clarify: reward yourself for taking new and improved actions, or for taking more of the right kind of actions, even if these actions don't immediately cause the desired results. Once your new level becomes a habit, stop rewarding yourself and reward the next level up. Rinse and repeat until you're close enough to a goal that it makes sense to reward yourself directly for the results you actually want.

Comment author: Zvi 25 February 2012 03:25:41PM 0 points [-]

I continue to celebrate a job well done even if it's force of habit, if only to give myself better incentives to form more good habits.

Comment author: Zvi 25 February 2012 03:24:10PM 1 point [-]

There's signaling effort (especially to yourself), and then there's effort. You want to reward effort but not signaling effort.

Often one will make a cursory attempt at something, but with the goal of signaling to themselves or others that they put in effort or tried rather than doing what was most likely to accomplish the goal. This leads to statements like "I tried to get there on time" or "I did everything I was supposed to do." That's excuse making. Don't reward that.

Instead, reward yourself to the extent that you did that which you had reason to believe was most likely to work, including doing your best to figure that out, even if it didn't succeed. Do the opposite if you didn't make the best decisions and put forth your best efforts, even if you do succeed.

The danger is that effort is much easier to self-deceive about than results - and the people who need this the most will often have the most trouble with that. Not enough attention is paid to this problem, and it may well deserve a top level post.