Dustin comments on Get Curious - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Dustin 29 February 2012 05:33:24AM *  1 point [-]

When read carefully, the article makes clear it's talking about an effect that even if it existed, would be very close to the noise threshold. It requires some statistical awareness — much more than the typical academic has, to say nothing of Wikipedians — to recognize that this is the same thing as saying "there's no reason to suspect an effect here."

Is this really true? I'm not a part of academia in any sort of way, nor do I have any sort of math or statistical training beyond what's referred to as College Algebra, and I recognized immediately what the effect being close the noise threshold meant.

I'm just wondering if I just have a better intuitive grasp of statistics than your typical academic (and what exactly you mean by academic...all teachers? professors? english professors? stats majors?).

Of course, I read LessWrong and understand Bayes because of it, so maybe that's all it takes...

Comment author: Barry_Cotter 29 February 2012 09:05:02PM 0 points [-]

Is this really true?

Yes. Most of the academy doesn't use math or have any feel for it. Being forced to take algebra when you truly do not give a damn about it results in people learning enough to pass the test and then forgetting it forever.

I'm just wondering if I just have a better intuitive grasp of statistics than your typical academic (and what exactly you mean by academic...all teachers? professors? english professors? stats majors?).

Academics are people who have jobs teaching/lecturing in tertiary education. In a US context the lowest you can go and still be an academic is teaching at a community college. Alternatively an academic is part of the community of scholars, people who actually care about knowledge as such rather than as a means to an end. Most of these people would not know statistics if it bit them on the ass. Remember, the world is insane.