PhilGoetz comments on Akrasia and Shangri-La - Less Wrong

38 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 10 April 2009 08:53PM

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Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 10 April 2009 09:16:31PM 21 points [-]

On the engineering level, only one fact matters: change in energy stored equals energy consumed minus energy expended

Bullshit.

There's a hundred factors being identified that e.g. control how fast energy gets sucked up by fat cells leaving you weak and still hungry, versus how long energy is left available in the bloodstream leaving you feel strong and ready for running. Or e.g. how much nutrient that passes into your mouth is absorbed in the intestinal tract. Or e.g. when exercise creates new lean muscle that burns more calories on its own.

The fact that change in fat equals fat stored minus fat consumed is technically true but useless: I deny its connotations. The idea that the calories you take in through your mouth are the "input" and that the exercise you do to burn them is "output" and that the balance between the two is all that matters is false but appealing bullshit that plays hell with the bodies and feelings of every poor fat person who tries to live that lie. Between input and output there is a giant complicated machine and yes the exact form of the input and the exact form of the output and what you ate as a kid and all sorts of other things affect it.

Comment author: PhilGoetz 10 April 2009 09:41:22PM *  3 points [-]

On the engineering level, only one fact matters: change in energy stored equals energy consumed minus energy expended

Bullshit.

0 < bullshit(change in weight = consumption - exercise) < bullshit(you can lose a pound of fat a day with my new diet even though you expend less than a pound of fat's worth of calories in a day).

Or e.g. when exercise creates new lean muscle that burns more calories on its own.

From personal experience, this is a great one, and seldom mentioned. Bodybuilding can be a better way to lose weight than running, even though the running burns more calories while you're doing it.