Will_Newsome comments on Request for input: draft of my "coming out" statement on religious deconversion - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Will_Newsome 04 March 2012 03:58:40AM 2 points [-]

That sounds right. I think I'm what you'd get if you took Vladimir_M's views on hermeneutics but with a perspective on metaphysics that saw them as potentially actually correct rather than acting almost-without-exception as convenient Schelling focal points.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 06 March 2012 02:14:56AM 4 points [-]

One big difference is that you want to immanentize the eschaton going so far as to invoke actual theology, whereas Vladimir_M would probably he extremely skeptical of such attempts, and quiet frankly so would I.

Comment author: Will_Newsome 06 March 2012 02:32:13PM 0 points [-]

One big difference is that you want to immanentize the eschaton

(I don't want to as such, it's more that I'm extremely afraid of the potential consequences of not doing so.)

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 07 March 2012 04:34:08AM 2 points [-]

One big difference is that you want to immanentize the eschaton

(I don't want to as such, it's more that I'm extremely afraid of the potential consequences of not doing so.)

I'm also afraid of the consequences of attempting to given how well previous attempts have gone.

Comment author: Will_Newsome 07 March 2012 08:51:20AM *  2 points [-]

(ETA: Deleted paragraph comparing myself to Hitler because apparently that sort of thing is easily misunderstood or something.)

If you think my trying to immanentize the eschaton has a decent chance of being seen in retrospect as obviously evil and retarded, then I'm morally obligated to pester you to see whether the outside view of inside view makes more sense here. But perhaps we should continue this in another venue, if you'd like. I find it to be a very interesting topic, and also very important to what I do with my life.

ETA: In the meantime I'll read Ride the Tiger by Julius Evola.

Comment author: Eugine_Nier 12 March 2012 11:47:49PM 1 point [-]

In the meantime I'll read Ride the Tiger by Julius Evola.

Why Julius Evola? If you're trying to figure out whether to immanentize the eschaton you might want to look at Eric Voegelin.