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Comment author: fubarobfusco 08 March 2012 03:11:30AM 0 points [-]

I'm thinking of the latest wizard wheeze in apologetics, which is to posit that the fact of orderly physics is evidence of God.

This is new in Christianity? I heard of it as an old Islamic argument: God's presence continually maintains the order of the universe; without God, everything would fall into chaos; therefore, the fact that you are able to observe a consistent universe is itself evidence of God.

Comment author: David_Gerard 08 March 2012 08:09:48AM *  -1 points [-]

Wonder how the same arguers deal with an unorderly universe with flying horse miracles.

I suppose there aren't really new apologetics. I wonder if there's a list:

  1. God of the gaps.
  2. Argument from wishful thinking (ontological argument and variants).
  3. I feel there is God, therefore God.
  4. Both A and not-A are evidence of God.

Edit: Of course there's a list.