Locke comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 10 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Locke 13 March 2012 08:02:25PM 6 points [-]

If Quirrell was confident he could kill Dumbledore he would have done so by now, of that I'm certain. Gods, Eliezer better be planning to write this fight eventually.

Comment author: ajuc 14 March 2012 05:03:05PM *  1 point [-]

For Quirrell it would be "in character" to kill Dumbledore in such a way, that everybody would think it was natural death. Or at least assasinate him quietly without witnesses, without time for Dumbledore to react.

BTW - what stops Quirrell from polyjuicing as Harry, asking for private audience in Dumbledore apartment, doing quick surprise Avada Kedavra, and flying out of window? Or better yet - put Albus body to magical pouch, polyjuice as Dumbledore and run Hogward ever since. Dumbledore behaves quite strange, and rarely shows publicly, so it wouldn't be hard to do.

I can only think that Quirrell thinks everything is going according to plan, and no need to make the game more chaotic by killin Dumbledore now.

Comment author: pedanterrific 14 March 2012 07:01:54PM 4 points [-]

what stops Quirrell from polyjuicing [...] Or better yet ... polyjuice

"Polyfluis Reverso!"

what stops Quirrell from [...] asking for private audience in Dumbledore apartment, doing quick surprise Avada Kedavra

If killing Dumbledore were as simple as yelling "Avada Kedavra" at him when his back is turned, he'd already be dead.

Comment author: ajuc 14 March 2012 07:11:08PM 0 points [-]

I've thought if you're not Harry Potter, and you have brain, then the only way to survive Avada Kedavra is not to be there?

And when Harry sneaked to Dumbledore last time he (D.) had not cast anything to check if it was Harry. Maybe he can do this quietly.

Comment author: pedanterrific 14 March 2012 07:17:51PM 1 point [-]

Dumbledore seems to do just fine animating things to move between him and the curse. Maybe DumbleMoR can conjure a steel shield faster than it's possible to say Avadakedavra.

Comment author: Desrtopa 15 March 2012 01:17:53AM 2 points [-]

BTW - what stops Quirrell from polyjuicing as Harry, asking for private audience in Dumbledore apartment, doing quick surprise Avada Kedavra, and flying out of window? Or better yet - put Albus body to magical pouch, polyjuice as Dumbledore and run Hogward ever since. Dumbledore behaves quite strange, and rarely shows publicly, so it wouldn't be hard to do.

Dumbledore might have other methods of recognizing such a disguise. Perhaps, for instance, he can detect the approximate magical strength of a person regardless of their appearance? In Half-Blood Prince, while seeking out one of Voldemort's horcruxes, he and Harry encounter a device which is supposed to detect when a wizard passes through by registering their power, and Dumbledore notes that next to him, it's not even going to notice Harry. Perhaps while a switch like Barty Crouch Junior for Alastor Moody could slip his notice, a huge disparity like Quirrell for an eleven year old Harry would be an immediate red flag in his senses.

Comment author: pedanterrific 15 March 2012 04:35:04AM 10 points [-]

Perhaps, for instance, he can detect the approximate magical strength of a person regardless of their appearance?

Yep:

"I know," said the old wizard. "My apologies, Amelia." He sighed. "Some of the more recent prisoners had scraps of their magic left, when I looked upon them, but I sensed no uneaten power; the strongest had only as much magic left as a first-year child.

Comment author: Locke 14 March 2012 05:35:37PM 1 point [-]

Dumbledore's death would probably be not worth the trouble right now, but I think that if it were possible Quirrell would have removed and impersonated him before Harry ever got to Hogwarts.

Quirrell probably has more raw talent than Albus, but when someone has an ancient wand that guarantees combat victory talent isn't enough. He's smart enough to know he'll need to plot his way to victory, because he is not beating the Elder Wand.