Nisan comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 10 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Eneasz 14 March 2012 07:33:51PM 1 point [-]

What really throws this for me is that Quirrell is said to go down the hallway in the same direction as Zabini, and then in the next section Zabini meets H&C. That is so blatant that I actually consider it an anti-clue. It's like someone pretending to steal something and whistling nonchalantly to draw attention to their jest-theft. Contrast to Quirrell trying to permanently Dement Harry during the Humanism arc, which was subtle enough that I completely missed it in the first reading (tho didn't hurt that I was very biased by my adoration of Quirrell at that point).

Comment author: Nisan 14 March 2012 08:47:37PM 3 points [-]

Quirrell trying to permanently Dement Harry during the Humanism arc

Wait, what? Has this been discussed somewhere?

Comment author: Eneasz 14 March 2012 11:13:08PM 19 points [-]

Somewhere in the old threads I think, but I'm in a rush and can't look it up right now. Quick points:

  • Quirrell organized the whole Dementor visit from the beginning
  • Quirrell waited until Hermione was running up to the Dementor and would've seen it herself anyway to "suddenly notice" Harry's wand next to the Dementor's cage
  • Quirrell suggested the Headmaster leave early, before it was Harry's turn
  • Quirrell instructed Harry's friends to "give him space" even though he probably knew that it was better for Harry to be surrounded by his friends as Dumbledore said
  • Quirrell undermines Harry's confidence just before he goes in front of the Dementor (If you can't do it, I at least will understand)

All plausibly deniable, and exactly Quirrell's style.

Comment author: Fergus_Mackinnon 16 March 2012 01:50:04PM 1 point [-]

That implies he at least suspects Harry holds a horcrux...

Comment author: Blueberry 25 March 2012 09:58:05AM 0 points [-]

Why would he want to kill Harry? And if he wanted to, wouldn't he have done it by now?

Comment author: Eneasz 26 March 2012 06:00:17PM -1 points [-]

Demented Harry is Evil Harry, not dead.

Comment author: Blueberry 27 March 2012 02:47:03AM 1 point [-]

What? The people in Azkaban were close to dead, not cunning evil geniuses. Dementors weaken you and suck the life out of you.

Comment author: Eneasz 27 March 2012 07:47:16PM 1 point [-]

Chapter 44 is the goal-state

Comment author: Nisan 15 March 2012 06:32:32PM 0 points [-]

Holy crap.

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