Micaiah_Chang comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 10 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Micaiah_Chang 16 March 2012 08:52:08AM 1 point [-]

Why would Quirrel go to Fuyuki City in 1983? The 5th Holy Grail War takes place around 2003, with the 4th 10 years before during 1993. Assuming that Quirrel knew about the Grail Wars, he'd also have known about the 60 year cycles and would have little reason to arrive earlier. The earliest Zero relevant information happens eight years earlier in 1985. The closest event in TYPE MOON chronology would be Shiki's birth or the first case of Agonist Disorder. But the former is related more to Misaki town than Fuyuki city and the latter is from DDD... which only has an obscure, mostly unread translation!

So I'm probably overthinking the connection to Fuyuki; it's probably just a one off reference. It's that or the timeline was 'magically' shifted forward by 10 years, with the 5th grail war in 1993 and the 4th in 1983...

Comment author: linkhyrule5 16 March 2012 09:19:29AM 9 points [-]

This is a Harry Potter fic, not a crossover. It's a Shout Out, not an actual reference.

I admit, however, that if the dates were right I would totally be supporting one of the H&Cs being Heroic Spirit POTTER.

Comment author: Anubhav 17 March 2012 08:21:22AM *  0 points [-]

agonist disorder

Doesn't look like there was an outbreak in Fuyuki. Besides, it's made clear that Quirrell never actually visited the place.

The 5th Holy Grail War takes place around 2003, with the 4th 10 years before during 1993

Which means that either (a) Kayneth Archibald el-Melloi will be replaced by Lucius Malfoy or (b) the dates need to be moved around.

Comment author: gwern 17 March 2012 03:24:32PM 0 points [-]

Besides, it's made clear that Quirrell never actually visited the place.

Why is that clear? It's a powerfully magical place which might draw someone like Quirrel, and Quirrel's mistake was about whether he had a visa - so he could have gone but not known whether his later cover identity was officially registered or not.

Comment author: Anubhav 17 March 2012 04:55:29PM 0 points [-]

If Grail Wars do occur in this continuity, I'd be very surprised if Riddle didn't visit their site when he was wandering the world looking for knowledge and power.

But I doubt that the reference is anything more than yet another shout-out.