cultureulterior comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 10 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: cultureulterior 16 March 2012 06:51:48PM 4 points [-]

I'm assuming that the evidentiary standards are higher for conflicts between noble houses. I could also imagine a trial by combat alternative.

Comment author: Locke 16 March 2012 07:29:09PM 8 points [-]

As much as I'd love it, there's no chance of a trial by combat. "If we did it your way, Kingslayer, you'd win. We're not doing it your way."

Comment author: DanArmak 16 March 2012 07:39:59PM 7 points [-]

I'm assuming that the evidentiary standards are higher for conflicts between noble houses

I'm getting the sense there isn't an evidentiary standard at all, not in any case. Each side argues their case and presents whatever evidence they like, and then the Wizengamot votes whatever the hell they feel like, nonwithstanding evidence to the contrary. Remember what Draco told Potter back at the train station: the Malfoys can get out of any accusations before the Wizengamot, like a non-noble accusing Draco of rape, simply because they've got the votes. Or the case with clearing Hagrid of blame: Quirrel said it would go ahead "because Lucius would have no reason to oppose it" (my words).

Comment author: DanArmak 16 March 2012 07:06:51PM 0 points [-]

What, Lord (Harry) Potter against Lord Lucius Malfoy? What a fine trial by combat that would be.

Comment author: Locke 16 March 2012 07:34:16PM 0 points [-]

No, they'd be allowed champions, and Dumbledore would win.

Comment author: DanArmak 16 March 2012 07:36:50PM 6 points [-]

If it were that easy, Lucius couldn't contest Dumbledore politically. I suppose the Wizengamot would have to rule to adjudicate by combat, and they won't in an apparently clearcut murder attempt case.

Comment author: cultureulterior 16 March 2012 07:31:57PM 0 points [-]

Well, for underage wizards, they get a champion, obviously. Dumbledore or Quirrel, I'd assume.