Dreaded_Anomaly comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 10 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: DanArmak 16 March 2012 06:12:50PM *  10 points [-]

Quirrel can turn Harry instantly and permanently against Dumbledore (edit: though not Wizarding society in general), any day he likes, by telling him that the Philosopher's stone exists and Dumbledore is allowing Flamel to hoard it (and the method for creating more) for himself.

No stronger method is needed. Harry would declare Dumbledore his enemy on the spot.

Comment author: Dreaded_Anomaly 16 March 2012 10:19:10PM 5 points [-]

That could turn him against Dumbledore (and Flamel), but I don't see how it would turn him against Wizarding society. I doubt most wizards give Flamel or the Stone a second thought, if they even know he/it exists.

It's also notable that the revelation of the existence of Nurmengard, which imprisons wizards without using Dementors, did not really turn him any more against Dumbledore or Wizarding society.

Comment author: DanArmak 16 March 2012 11:47:24PM 4 points [-]

That could turn him against Dumbledore (and Flamel), but I don't see how it would turn him against Wizarding society. I doubt most wizards give Flamel or the Stone a second thought, if they even know he/it exists.

You're right.

Comment author: TobyBartels 24 March 2012 03:44:04AM 0 points [-]

In canon, at least, people know about Flamel, from Dumbledore's Chocolate Frog card if nothing else. The Stone's not a secret either, although it's not common knowledge.