cata comments on Slowing Moore's Law: Why You Might Want To and How You Would Do It - Less Wrong

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Comment author: cata 18 October 2012 08:24:36AM 2 points [-]

There's a strong feeling in the culture here that it's virtuous to be able to discuss weird and scary ideas without feeling weirded out or scared. See: torture and dust specks, AI risk, uploading, and so on.

Personally, I agree with you now about this article, because I can see that you and the fellow above and probably others feel strongly about it. But when I read it originally, it never occurred to me to feel creeped out, because I've made myself to just think calmly about ideas, at least until they turn into realities -- I think many other readers here are the same. Since I don't feel it automatically, quantifying "how weird" or "how scary" these things are to other people takes a real conscious effort; I forget to do it and I'm not good at it either.

So that's how it happens.

Comment author: Epiphany 18 October 2012 05:31:18PM 0 points [-]

I like entertaining ideas that others find weird and scary, too, and I don't mind that they're "weird". I have nothing against it. Even though my initial reaction was "Does this guy support terrorism?" I was calm enough to investigate and discover that no, he does not support terrorism.

Since I don't feel it automatically, quantifying "how weird" or "how scary" these things are to other people takes a real conscious effort; I forget to do it and I'm not good at it either.

Yeah, I relate to this. Not on this particular piece though. I'm having total hindsight bias about it, too. I am like "But I see this, how the heck is it not obvious to everyone else!?"

You know what? I think it might be amount of familiarity with Gwern. I'm new and I've read some of Gwern's stuff but I hadn't encountered his "Terrorism isn't effective" piece, so I didn't have any reason to believe Gwern is against terrorism.

Maybe you guys automatically interpreted Gwern's writing within the context of knowing him, and I didn't...