orthonormal comments on Is causal decision theory plus self-modification enough? - Less Wrong

-4 Post author: Mitchell_Porter 10 March 2012 08:04AM

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Comment author: orthonormal 11 March 2012 07:58:41PM 2 points [-]

It wouldn't work as you've stated it. The action of changing itself to a one-boxer would, according to its current decision theory, increase payoffs for every Newcomb's Problem it would encounter from that moment forward, but not for any in which the Predictor had already made its decision.

Seriously, you can work this out for yourself.

Comment author: Mitchell_Porter 11 March 2012 10:26:30PM 0 points [-]

What confuses me here is that a causal model of reality would still tell it that being a one-boxer now will maximize the payoff now, if it examines possible worlds in the right way. It seems to come down to cognitive contingencies - whether its heuristics manage to generate this observation, without it then being countered by a "can't-change-the-past" heuristic.

I may need to examine the decision-theory literature to see what I can reasonably call a "CDT agent", especially Gibbard & Harper, where the distinction with evidential decision theory is apparently defined.

Comment author: orthonormal 11 March 2012 10:39:59PM 1 point [-]

if it examines possible worlds in the right way

That's the main difference between decision theories like CDT, TDT and UDT.

Comment author: Will_Newsome 12 March 2012 09:26:03PM 1 point [-]

I think it's the only difference between CDT and TDT: TDT gets a semi-correct causal graph, CDT doesn't. (Only semi-correct because the way Eliezer deals with Platonic nodes, i.e. straightforward Bayesian updating, doesn't seem likely to work in general. This is where UDT seems better than TDT.)