orthonormal comments on Decision Theories: A Less Wrong Primer - Less Wrong

69 Post author: orthonormal 13 March 2012 11:31PM

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Comment author: orthonormal 13 March 2012 04:47:52AM 1 point [-]

Unless Omega predicts without simulating- for instance, this formulation of UDT can be formally proved to one-box without simulating.

Comment author: gRR 13 March 2012 07:32:28AM 0 points [-]

Errrr. The agent does not simulate anything in my argument. The agent has a "mental model" of Omega, in which Omega is a perfect simulator. It's about representation of the problem within the agent's mind.

In your link, Omega - the function U() - is a perfect simulator. It calls the agent function A() twice, once to get its prediction, and once for the actual decision.

Comment author: orthonormal 13 March 2012 09:37:12PM 0 points [-]

The problem would work as well if the first call went not to A directly but querying the oracle whether A()=1. There are ways of predicting that aren't simulation, and if that's the case then your idea falls apart.