keddaw comments on Schelling fences on slippery slopes - Less Wrong

179 Post author: Yvain 16 March 2012 11:44PM

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Comment author: keddaw 28 March 2012 10:16:50AM -2 points [-]

So close notTheOtherDave...

when it costs X to lower the risk by Y of harm Z, and X > Y * Z * chance of an incident, then implementing the measure is bad policy.

Is exactly the point, but you have not defined X. Given that X leads to a slippery slope decrease in all free speech rights (e.g. Gitmo torture reporting, Bradley Manning etc. etc.) then how do you quantify X?

Sometimes the direct harm of X may be less than the others, but the principle is much more important.

This is why we presume people innocent. This is why convicting no-one is preferable to convicting the wrong person. This is why, in short, we have rights!

Comment author: TimS 28 March 2012 12:09:13PM *  1 point [-]

when it costs X to lower the risk by Y of harm Z

He did define X. It is the cost of preventing the harm. See generally Burden vs. Cost of Injury x Probability of occurrence

Comment author: dlthomas 29 March 2012 01:34:43AM *  0 points [-]

Noting that on the one hand I don't think our actual policy recommendations would be far apart (as pertaining to the issues at hand, at least) , and on the other that I have may objections to particulars your post above, I am going to nonetheless bow out as we are straying much too deep into mind-killer territory for my liking. I notice that you are new here, and point you toward Policy Debates Should Not Appear One-Sided and Politics Is The Mind-Killer, if you have not already seen them. Feel free to contact me privately if you would like to continue any political part of this discussion in another forum.