OK, so suppose we have an observer. Now look at the cat. Is it alive or dead? If it is alive and only alive, well, we can affix the phrase "relative to the observer" but it doesn't diminish the absoluteness of the cat's being alive. But if the cat is alive "relative to one observer to which it is alive", and dead "relative to another observer to which it is dead", how can we possibly make sense of that except in many-worlds fashion, by saying there are two cats and two observers?
If two observers measure a cat, they will get compatible results. However one observer can have less complete information ("the cat collapsed") and another more complete ("the cat is uncollapsed"). Observers can disagree about "collapse" because that is just an issue of their information, not an objective property.
"Relational interpretation
The relational interpretation makes no fundamental distinction between the human experimenter, the cat, or the apparatus, or between animate and inanimate systems; all are quantum syste...
I have several questions related to this:
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And on the sequences page:
This seems obviously false to me.
These may not seem like cultish statements to you, but keep in mind that you are one of the ones who decided to stick around. The typical mind fallacy may be at work. Clearly there is some population that thinks Less Wrong seems cultish, as evidenced by Google's autocomplete, and these look like good candidates for things that makes them think this.
We can fix this stuff easily, since they're both wiki pages, but I thought they were examples worth discussing.
In general, I think we could stand more community effort being put into improving our about page, which you can do now here. It's not that visible to veteran users, but it is very visible to newcomers. Note that it looks as though you'll have to click the little "Force reload from wiki" button on the about page itself for your changes to be published.