Vladimir_Nesov comments on Evolutionary psychology: evolving three eyed monsters - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Dmytry 17 March 2012 02:36:28AM *  0 points [-]

Who are you to say that I am making a mistake that a lot of people without experience programming computers make? Adjust your priors: I am successful software programmer, working in computer graphics, for quite a long time. That's how i earn my living. In my life i wrote all sorts of software (of course not literally all, but still rather significant coverage). I'd say I am not making a mistake that a lot of people with little experience programming would make.

The whole point is that evolution is not generating most of the algorithms. Evolution generated a few, including a very powerful learning algorithm, which took very long time (note that power doesn't equate to complexity; evolution itself is not very complex but is rather powerful). The very powerful learning algorithm allows to adapt to environment on-spot, as well as to the brain modifications. There are algorithms adding computer power to which allows to do 'new tricks'. The new human behaviours, too, are not all that new - different in the extent, rather than in essence. We - not even all of us, some of us - search massively larger solution spaces than chimps do, but there isn't a great deal of evidence that we do anything principally different (and especially not all humans).

edit: One other thing. We do have example of how novel modules evolve. Entire new areas of brain, like neocortex, appear - over a very large number of generations. What has happened in the small brained hominid to human evolution, though, is nothing like this. The number of generations is massively smaller, and the brain is pretty much up-scaled version of the original brain. Note that this happened against strong pressure for small brain size (childbirth difficulties)

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 17 March 2012 12:35:37PM 0 points [-]

Who are you to say that I am making a mistake that a lot of people without experience programming computers make?

He's probably a person with programming experience...

Comment author: Dmytry 17 March 2012 12:38:22PM *  1 point [-]

and if i apply same prior to him as he applies to me, probably a person with little programming experience. Everyday tit-for-tat reflex (that one might have evolved because its conceivable it was good through much of our on-trees existence as well, albeit i'm a bit dubious as of how the DNA would code for something like tit for tat, in mammalian brain; it would code for something that sort of works like tit for tat, with a lot of side effects, such as getting irritated, and responding in the equivalent style; [learning what to be irritated at]).