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Comment author: taw 17 March 2012 11:14:03PM 1 point [-]

Your current self has delusions that it influences your future self's decision to commit suicide far more than it really does.

A survey "are you likely to commit suicide sometime within the next 5 years" will have drastically fewer yes answers than reality.

Comment author: MartinB 18 March 2012 07:23:43AM 2 points [-]

I seem to refuse to consider suicide as the same type of problem as an accident. But it can not hurt to act to prevent it. Suggestions on what to do about it?

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 19 March 2012 01:05:31PM 1 point [-]

Suggestions based on no research: Do the things which tend to help with depression-- exercise, light in the morning, arguing rationally against thoughts that portray the world or your self as intrinsically bad.

Comment author: waveman 28 February 2014 11:45:35AM 0 points [-]

Some of this discussion assumes that suicide is generally irrational. But you can potentially also affect 'rational' suicide.

  1. By avoiding injuries or illnesses that cause a great deal of pain, especially chronic pain. I remember when I had a very painful back problem (now fixed) I read that suicide is unusually common among people with chronic pain.

  2. By avoiding social isolation. There are plenty of things you can do to cultivate a wide and vibrant social life.

Comment author: Creutzer 28 February 2014 11:49:08AM *  0 points [-]

By avoiding social isolation. There are plenty of things you can do to cultivate a wide and vibrant social life.

This is not as trivial for a depressed person as you make it sound. But I agree with the part about the (ir)rationality of suicide and how this method is preferable to tricking yourself into thinking the world is a nicer place than it may be.

Comment author: waveman 19 March 2014 05:04:48AM 0 points [-]

This is not as trivial for a depressed person as you make it sound.

I did not mean to imply it was trivial.

Comment author: Grognor 18 March 2012 09:50:36AM 1 point [-]

You keep asserting this, but I doubt (not strongly) that it's actually true. There was a good long while, when I was younger, where I was pretty sure I'd commit suicide eventually, but I've since changed my mind.

I may be generalizing from one example, but you're asserting with no examples.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 19 March 2012 12:57:19PM 0 points [-]

Why did you change your mind?

Comment author: Grognor 19 March 2012 01:04:33PM *  3 points [-]

Some kind of shift in the chemicals in my brain, most likely. No explicit reasoning behind it. Oh, also transhumanism, maybe.

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