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76 Post author: michaelcurzi 17 March 2012 07:44PM

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Comment author: RomeoStevens 18 March 2012 01:48:06AM 16 points [-]

One additional factor if you try to incorporate this stuff: everyone acting like you're a freaking weirdo for being vigilant. I'm referred to as a bad driver because I am cautious. People assume caution stems from incompetence.

Comment author: MartinB 18 March 2012 07:40:30AM 6 points [-]

If you can take the status his, that might lead to fewer people wanting to drive with you -- WIN :-) Reckless driving is sometimes considered manly, in a similar manner like heavy drinking and doing stupid things while under. Just do your safely thing, shrug off useless comments and don't talk that much about your ideas.

Comment author: Viliam_Bur 19 March 2012 08:39:16AM *  3 points [-]

People assume caution stems from incompetence.

Once again, acting rationally is bad for signalling. :-(

EDIT: So how exactly are rational people supposed to win here? Perhaps by including prestige in your utility function and calculating how much danger is a reasonable tradeoff. To be extra careful when driving alone or with reasonable people, and relax safety standards with other people; but generally avoid driving with unreasonable people present.

Comment author: wedrifid 19 March 2012 09:20:23AM 6 points [-]

Once again, acting rationally is bad for signalling. :-(

Unless you care about signalling in which case it is overwhelmingly awesome for signalling and you collect an absolute ton of low hanging fruit by making a few google searches.

Comment author: Blueberry 25 March 2012 01:08:50AM 1 point [-]

Such as? There are a hundred different theories about status and signaling but not a lot of useful suggestions or agreement on specifics that I've found.

Comment author: wedrifid 25 March 2012 01:59:54AM 1 point [-]

Such as?

Researching which clothes will best give the signals you wish to send.

Comment author: Blueberry 27 March 2012 02:53:16AM 0 points [-]

Still, a lot of that has to do with different people's preferences. If you've found a consistent, clear source for good info, I'd be interested though. Also, you're in the UK: we think you guys look weird and vice versa ;)

Comment author: wedrifid 27 March 2012 09:09:29AM 0 points [-]

Also, you're in the UK: we think you guys look weird and vice versa ;)

Australia here.

Comment author: Blueberry 27 March 2012 10:44:36AM 0 points [-]

But srsly, you have any good fashion websites?

Comment author: wedrifid 27 March 2012 10:59:32AM *  1 point [-]

I've found the following useful:

http://www.styleforum.net/ http://www.theurbangent.com http://au.askmen.com/fashion/

I don't profess inordinate expertise in this body of knowledge. There may be better resources but those ones are sufficient to point out all the low hanging fruit I care about and then some.

Many people (in this case probably males) could benefit from having the realization "Oh, I'm supposed to put effort into signalling!", going and finding 3 full outfits from one of those sites, buying them and then forgetting about fashion for a year or two. It will not make them optimal signalers but will give drastic improvements for trivial investment.

Comment author: Blueberry 27 March 2012 10:44:14AM -2 points [-]

mutatis mutandis...