Bongo comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 11 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: 75th 23 March 2012 02:27:05AM *  5 points [-]

CHAPTER 80 SPOILERS BELOW

Well. We have five days to think of something. This seems to mean that Harry will think of something, and we have five days to guess what it may be. Presumably it will be something in one of the following categories:

  • Something about Lucius Malfoy
  • Something about the Wizengamot
  • Something about the laws of magical Britain
  • Anything about some person or thing within range of his vision

I propose we start by making a list of everything in the courtroom:

  • Three Aurors
    • One of whom is named Gawain Robards
  • A dementor
  • Minerva McGonagall
  • Harry Potter
    • And everything in his pouch
  • A Prophet reporter
  • Dolores Umbridge
  • Lucius Malfoy
  • Augusta Longbottom
  • Dumbledore
  • A man with a scarred face sitting next to Lucius; Fenrir Greyback?
  • Amelia Bones

What do we know about any of these people that Harry might use to sway the crowd?

Comment author: Bongo 23 March 2012 04:30:16AM 5 points [-]

Harry didn't hear Hermione's testimony. Therefore, he can go back in time and change it to anything that would produce the audience reaction he saw, without causing paradox.

Comment author: glumph 23 March 2012 06:13:10AM 5 points [-]

But since the audience's (extended) reaction includes voting to send Hermoine to Azkaban, how will changing her testimony help?

Comment author: aladner 23 March 2012 01:46:38PM 2 points [-]

If he could change part of the testimony to something demonstrably false, that no one else in the room knew at the time, he could prove that her mind had been compromised. Actually changing the memory would be a problem, and it doesn't seem like a likely solution to me, but it's still possible.