selylindi comments on Decision Theories: A Semi-Formal Analysis, Part I - Less Wrong

21 Post author: orthonormal 24 March 2012 04:01PM

You are viewing a comment permalink. View the original post to see all comments and the full post content.

Comments (90)

You are viewing a single comment's thread.

Comment author: selylindi 27 March 2012 06:26:50PM *  0 points [-]

This branch of math is outside my training. I'm stumbling over the self-fulfilling prophecies section.

How can these two statements

if (output X)=b then U=10
if (output X)=b then U=0

both be true?

Comment author: orthonormal 27 March 2012 11:41:44PM 1 point [-]

Because in the second example, it's been deduced that (output X)=a. It's like how you can prove anything from a false premise.

Comment author: jsalvatier 28 March 2012 07:10:43PM *  2 points [-]

I think it might help to say that explicitly.

Comment author: orthonormal 28 March 2012 11:44:31PM 0 points [-]

Good call. Is my edit better?

Comment author: jsalvatier 29 March 2012 12:57:31AM 0 points [-]

Yes, though I would say "because you can prove anything from a false premise".

Comment author: orthonormal 29 March 2012 09:02:59PM 1 point [-]

Subtle distinction: it's not unconditionally taking a false axiom and deriving a spurious conclusion, it's proving a conditional by proving the antecedent is false.

I'll see if I can improve the wording.

Comment author: ArisKatsaris 27 March 2012 06:41:10PM *  1 point [-]

These articles seem beyond my skillset also, but this may help you:

In math, the sentence "if A then B", is equivalent to "(not A) or B"
So, "if A then B" is considered true if "A" is false, regardless of what B is.