wedrifid comments on 6 Tips for Productive Arguments - Less Wrong

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Comment author: wedrifid 19 March 2012 08:33:32AM 3 points [-]

Rule one: Have a social goal in any given conversation. It needn't be a fixed goal but as long as there actually is one the rest is easy.

Comment author: Dmytry 22 March 2012 07:29:49AM *  0 points [-]

Hmm. What's your social goal here? Producing texts for social goal purposes is called signalling (usually, but depends to what you're trying to do).

Comment author: wedrifid 22 March 2012 11:54:55AM 5 points [-]

Hmm. What's your social goal here?

It is something that it would be wiser to discuss with those for whom I would infer different motives and where I would predict different usages of any supplied text.

Producing texts for social goal purposes is called signalling (usually, but depends to what you're trying to do).

When I engage my Hansonian reasoning I can describe everything humans do in terms of their signalling implications. Yet to describe things as just signalling is to discard rather a lot of information. Some more specific goals that people could have in a given argument include:

  • Learning information from the other.
  • Understanding why the other believes the way they do.
  • Tracing the precise nature of disagreement.
  • Persuading the other.
  • Providing information to the other.
  • Combining your thinking capabilities with another so as to better explore the relevant issues and arrive at a better solution than either could alone.
  • Persuade the audience.
  • Educate the audience.
  • Mitigate the damage that the other has done through advocating incorrect or undesired knowledge or political opinions.
  • Entertain others or yourself.
  • Make oneself look impressive to the audience.
  • Alter the feelings that the other has towards you in a positive direction.
  • Practice one's skills at doing any of the above.
  • Demonstrate one's ability to do any of the above and thereby gain indirect benefit.

Some of those can be better described as 'signalling' than others.