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30 Post author: John_Maxwell_IV 18 March 2012 09:02PM

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Comment author: Swimmer963 19 March 2012 11:59:16AM 5 points [-]

Good article. The 6 techniques seem quite useful. I think I use 'isolate specific disagreements' the most-it feels like at least 80% of all arguments I get into consist of me trying to clarify exactly what we disagree on, and often finding out half the time that we don't actually disagree on anything of substance, just vocabulary/values/etc.

If your belief inertia is low and you steel-man everything, you'll reach the super chill state of not having a "side" in any given argument. You'll play for all sides and you won't care who wins.

I've actually been criticized for this. Finding it hard to have a firm opinion on something makes it nearly impossible to write a high school or university persuasive essay, and I hate having to write something that I don't actually believe or think is valid, so I end up agonizing for ages and ending up with a wishy-washy, kind of pointless main argument.

Comment author: John_Maxwell_IV 19 March 2012 07:02:01PM *  5 points [-]

Finding it hard to have a firm opinion on something makes it nearly impossible to write a high school or university persuasive essay, and I hate having to write something that I don't actually believe or think is valid, so I end up agonizing for ages and ending up with a wishy-washy, kind of pointless main argument.

So your thinking style is optimized for productive arguments but not school essays.