Bugmaster comments on 6 Tips for Productive Arguments - Less Wrong

30 Post author: John_Maxwell_IV 18 March 2012 09:02PM

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Comment author: Bugmaster 23 March 2012 01:39:04AM 2 points [-]

The measurements for inputs on basic physics are pretty damn well verified though, and rarely contested.

That's true, but the model is more complex than "CO2 absorbs infrared, therefore global warming". It's closer to something like, "CO2 absorbs infrared, CO2 is produced faster than it is consumed, mitigating factors are insufficient, therefore global warming"; and in reality it's probably more complex than that. So, it's not enough to just measure some basic physical properties of CO2; you must also measure its actual concentration in the atmosphere, the rate of change of this concentration, etc.

the technophilic civilization that doesn't trust scientists only when they say something uncomfortable, is [the problem].

Here you and I agree.

both sides are wrong, one is correct about the fact simply due to luck, but not because the fact has made it, causally, to hold the view.

I think you're being a bit harsh here. Surely, not all the scientists are just rolling dice in the dark, so to speak ? If scientific consensus was correct primarily "due to luck", we probably wouldn't have gotten as far as we did in our understanding of the world...