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Comment author: MichaelBishop 28 March 2012 04:11:14PM *  3 points [-]

It seems someone should link up "Why and How to Debate Charitably." I can't find a copy of the original because the author has taken it down. Here is a discussion of it on LW.. Here are my bulleted summary quotes. ADDED: Original essay I've just learned, and am very saddened to hear, that the author, Chris, committed suicide some time ago.

Comment author: RobinZ 20 April 2012 01:32:28AM 0 points [-]

Link in discussion post updated - thanks!

Comment author: Wei_Dai 19 April 2012 11:15:37PM 0 points [-]

From that essay:

Rules for dealing with lack of charity

Now, all the above is good and well to strive to follow. But what should you do when you’re dealing with those who don’t follow these rules? I have many ideas on this aspect of debate as well, which I will write up sometime.

Does anyone know if he did write them up? Even the Internet Archive's mirror of pdf23ds.net is gone now (intentionally purged by the author, it looks like).

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 28 March 2012 04:36:01PM 0 points [-]

I've noticed that if I notice someone online as civilized and intelligent, the odds seem rather high that I'll be seeing them writing about having an ongoing problem with depression within months.

This doesn't mean that everyone I like (online or off) is depressed, but it seems like a lot. The thing is, I don't know whether the proportion is high compared to the general population, or whether depression and intelligence are correlated. (Some people have suggested this as an explanation for what I think I've noticed.)

I wonder whether there's a correlation between depression and being conflict averse.

Comment author: MichaelBishop 28 March 2012 05:07:13PM 0 points [-]

I wonder whether there's a correlation between depression and being conflict averse. I would guess that there is, and I'm sure there has been at least some academic study of it. This doesn't really address the issue, but its related.

I also think that keeping a blog or writing in odd corners of the internet may be associated with, possibly even caused by, depression.

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