pjeby comments on Emotional regulation Part II: research summary - Less Wrong

23 Post author: Swimmer963 19 March 2012 09:51PM

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Comment author: pjeby 22 March 2012 03:32:32AM 8 points [-]

I'll be interested once researchers have an implementation-level argument for why their abstract emotional state space explains what really happens in brains

Easy: we have separate hardware for approach and avoidance behaviors, rather than a single linear "what's the value of this" system. It's easier to first evolve systems for avoiding bad things and approaching good things, than it is to develop a decision-making system that weighs pros and cons and decides which way to go. You can develop a disambiguation system after the first two systems are there, but it'd be hard to make from scratch.

(This, btw, is why I think utility expressed as a single number is lossy with respect to human values: when humans have both utilities and disutilities in a scenario, they usually experience conflict, not neutrality or indifference!)

Comment author: Swimmer963 22 March 2012 03:48:47AM 3 points [-]

This, btw, is why I think utility expressed as a single number is lossy with respect to human values: when humans have both utilities and disutilities in a scenario, they usually experience conflict, not neutrality or indifference!

That is a very insightful comment, I find. Let me ponder on that...

Comment author: Jonathan_Graehl 23 March 2012 08:53:45PM 0 points [-]

It does seem easy. Thanks.

I expect then that some approach-related and avoidance-related 'emotions' can co-activate (although you'd expect some mutual inhibition circuits, perhaps in some cases it's mediated only in deciding what concrete physical action to take).