Will_Newsome comments on A Problem About Bargaining and Logical Uncertainty - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 21 March 2012 11:15:31PM 0 points [-]

Then you'd be coordinating with players of other CM setups, not just with your own counterfactual opponent, you'd be breaking out of your thought experiment, and that's against the rules! (Whatever "logical coin" is, the primary condition is for it to be shared among and accessible to all coordinating agents. If that's so, like here, then I keep the money, assuming the thought experiment doesn't leak control.)

Comment author: Will_Newsome 22 March 2012 07:30:32AM *  9 points [-]

assuming the thought experiment doesn't leak control

:/ The whole point of thought experiments is that they leak control. ;P

"I seem to have found myself in a trolley problem! This is fantastically unlikely. I'm probably in some weird moral philosophy thought experiment and my actions are likely mostly going to be used as propaganda supporting the 'obvious' conclusions of one side or the other... oh and if I try to find a clever third option I'll probably make myself counterfactual in most contexts. Does the fact that I'm thinking these thoughts affect what contexts I'm in? /brainasplodes"

Comment author: Armok_GoB 22 March 2012 08:27:19PM 2 points [-]

This is exactly what my downscale copy thinks the first 3-5 times I try to run any though experiment. Often it's followed by "**, I'm going to die!"

I don't run though experiments containing myself at any level of detail if I can avoid it any more.