lavalamp comments on Scenario analysis: semi-general AIs - Less Wrong

1 Post author: Will_Newsome 22 March 2012 09:11AM

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Comment author: lavalamp 22 March 2012 08:36:11PM 1 point [-]

I think so. There is a supremely powerful person, Who is the Form of the Good, Who is perfectly simple... yeah, pretty sure I can do it using accepted theological terminology.

But I don't think those words coming from you are generated by the same thought process that most theists use to make similar statements. You use the same words, but you mean something different. At least, that is my impression.

Does it matter what the average theist believes?

No. But at some point it becomes helpful to try and make sure everyone means similar things when using the same word. If that's not possible then maybe it's a good time to taboo the word. I'm thinking that "theist" usually refers to a particular cluster of beliefs that are sorta similar to yours but different enough that I'm not sure if calling yourself a theist clarifies or obscures your actual beliefs. I'm leaning towards "obscures"...

Comment author: Will_Newsome 22 March 2012 08:44:28PM -1 points [-]

You use the same words, but you mean something different. At least, that is my impression.

My impression differs... like, there's only so many different things "supremely powerful person" and "Form of the Good" can mean, ya know? The meanings of those words all seem pretty straightforward.

Comment author: lavalamp 22 March 2012 09:05:04PM 2 points [-]

mmm.... I was about to agree with you, but after some thought, no, I think those words are incredibly vague. I can see adherents of most any religion agreeing with them. And the various religions typically think that they disagree with each other. I still maintain that by the time you define your beliefs at the same specificity as a typical human religion does, most Christians will not count you among their number.

I'm not saying that they're right and you're wrong (I'll bet on you if those are my options) just that you aren't really saying the same thing.