Dmytry comments on Open question on the certain 'hot' global issue of importance to FAI - Less Wrong
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Well, its a complex problem. They pretty much don't have anything for coping with climate change, forget the aircons, they don't have clean water, et cetera, and nobody's ever going to take them as refugees. The aircon was figuratively speaking, a sort of exaggerated understatement. The whole fossil issue is really 80%..90% just the west burning fossils like there's no tomorrow; rest of the world uses little resources. (That's generally a taboo topic around westerners, but i don't care about that. The thing is, the people are not only dying because you won't share, people are dying directly because of your positive action. There is a strong bias to consider the inaction to be lesser way to commit evil. A few degrees can kill a lot of people via many mechanisms)
So were you, like, strawmanning yourself? :-/
Still not seeing how it is even strawman, btw. I was listing a broader category of people (those without aircon), which includes any narrow categories of people (those who lack clean water, sufficient food, ...... (and aircon) for example). Furthermore those without aircon (or heating) themselves contribute rather little to the warming (both directly and indirectly), so it is pretty damn bad deal for them. I have not, however, implied that the suggested course of action consists of giving them aircon, or that stopping the AGW is the 'cheapest' thing you could do to help, or the like. That's you guys making strawmans. In so much as you can understand that your leisure activities produce CO2, which results in warming, which kills off people somewhere else in the world - by direct action, akin to having fun and throwing a glass bottle out of moving vehicle and killing someone - you should think hard about somehow compensating them for this.
Maybe there's so much fun in throwing a bottle out of a moving vehicle, and you're so rich, that you don't want to give this up and would rather pay. But compensate you must.