thomblake comments on SotW: Check Consequentialism - Less Wrong

38 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 29 March 2012 01:35AM

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Comment author: wedrifid 29 March 2012 05:12:56PM 0 points [-]

Short exercise.

I was mistaken. I'm amazed how much debate the question prompted here even with this framing. I really thought it was just a closed question.

Comment author: thomblake 29 March 2012 05:34:21PM 3 points [-]

I'm amazed how much debate the question prompted here even with this framing.

I'm amazed at your amazement.

I'd have expected at least this much out of any such silly comparison, even here. Try:

  • Raptors vs. Jesus
  • Twinkie vs. cockroach
  • Star Trek vs. Pop Tarts

Or any other conflict between trochees.

Comment author: wedrifid 29 March 2012 05:39:36PM -1 points [-]

Most of your amazement can be explained by you thinking that that 'pirates vs ninjas' belongs in the same reference class as:

  • Raptors vs. Jesus
  • Twinkie vs. cockroach
  • Star Trek vs. Pop Tarts

That seems utterly ridiculous. Are you being disingenuous or are you serious?

Comment author: thomblake 29 March 2012 06:46:16PM 1 point [-]

I'm being serious. See http://xkcd.com/856/

I think the relevant reference class is "trochees with a 'vs.' between them", and you can find many such engaging debates on the Internet. I'm skeptical that anyone would care to compare pirates and ninjas if they were called something else.

Comment author: Alejandro1 29 March 2012 07:13:33PM 2 points [-]

I don't think the trochee pattern is so critical to these debates. Cavemen vs. astronauts is a notorious counterexample.

Comment author: pedanterrific 06 April 2012 02:38:36AM 0 points [-]

I wonder why no one ever phrases it cavemen vs. spacemen.

Comment author: countercheck 30 March 2012 01:12:53AM 0 points [-]

Cavemen is a trochee. Astronauts is a dactyl, which is why it's less funny, but still close enough to a trochee.

Comment author: thomblake 30 March 2012 01:16:46AM 2 points [-]

Well cavemen are well-known in the literature for their pterodactyl-defeating skills, so I suppose that would generalize to other dactyls.

Comment author: thomblake 29 March 2012 07:26:39PM -1 points [-]

Oddly, I don't think I've encountered anything vs. astronauts before.

Comment author: thomblake 30 March 2012 12:34:25AM -1 points [-]

I retract my statement. I've seen the entirety of Angel.

Comment author: wedrifid 30 March 2012 07:11:19PM *  0 points [-]

I retract my statement. I've seen the entirety of Angel.

Come to think of it the only times I've heard the debate is between Angel and Spike and Bones and Booth. I hadn't caught the easter egg until now.