Annoyance comments on Actions and Words: Akrasia and the Fruit of Self-Knowledge - Less Wrong

10 Post author: Annoyance 15 April 2009 03:27PM

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Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 15 April 2009 08:45:52PM *  2 points [-]

Just as your actions don't follow seamlessly from the theoretical understanding of what's the right thing to do, and just as the understanding of what is the right thing to do doesn't precisely reflect what really is the right thing to do, what you actually do doesn't always reflect what you really prefer. There are errors and biases at every step, and the role of theoretical and intuitive understanding of what you want is in implementing a stronger procedure that gets the things you care about done reliably, that fights the imperfections in the causes of your actions, and imperfections in itself, instead of using them as an excuse for failure.

Your true preference is not the ultimate source of you actions, and much less so where the cause of discrepancy with your own judgment is a known problem, one you don't accept as a part of yourself.

Comment author: Annoyance 16 April 2009 05:44:18PM -2 points [-]

"what you actually do doesn't always reflect what you really prefer."

It is possible for the body to be broken so that it doesn't reflect the will. But if the body is whole, its actions reflect the genuine will of the entity - to the degree that it can, of course.

If my neck is broken and my spinal cord severed, I can't say that I don't prefer to eat because I don't pick up the apple sitting on the table. I'm paralyzed. My movements (or lack thereof) are no longer connected to my will.

With me just sitting here, though, the fact that I have not picked up the apple means that I do not prefer to pick up the apple.