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Oh god, why did you have to go there. Whyyyy
Edit: at least you didn't mention the squid
Am I missing something?
This.
But gaze not overlong into that particular abyss.
Edit: In retrospect, TvTropes itself is probably the bigger abyss of the two. So don't gaze overlong into that one either.
Could you summarize to spare us from gazing into that abyss?
Wow, I'd totally forgotten where I got that from.
But in this particular case, it's deserved, considering that a certain idea I first encountered in PKH is an element of HPMOR.
(You probably don't want to read through PKH trying to figure it out. No, seriously, it's figureable from the main text and PKH isn't going to help much.)
Other than "cheroybbq snzvyvrf znvagnva gurve jrnygu guebhtu neovgenel zbabcbyvrf tenagrq ol gur Jvmratnzbg"?
Is it 'xrrc gur fbhepr bs lbhe vzzbegnyvgl va bhgre fcnpr'?
Was that in PKH?
It's mentioned on the Tropes page under How Unscientific. So not that, huh?
Jryy vg'f rvgure gung Uneel'f qnexfvqr vf gur sentzrag bs Ibyqrzbeg'f fbhy be gung Qhzoyrqber'f rivy.
Ye gods.
Oh dear, I cannot stop gazing. It's actually quite a fun read so far, although it seems more like a sloppy first draft than a polished novel. I guess that's to be expected given the lack of editors in fanfic - I've clearly been spoiled by HPMOR and Luminosity.
I confess I rather enjoyed the part where Snape's head exploded. There's a certain window of "So bad it's good" in there, before you get to the "So bad it's horrible". As I said in another comment, it's not bad at the start.
What's wrong with the story?
All the same things that are wrong with Chunin Exam Day.
Never read that either. Is it like Time Braid?
Time Braid is far, far better than Chunin Exam Day. For many reasons, including not being written by a sociopath.
Time Braid is what Chunin Exam Day could have been without a Harem and with a more convincing polyamorous shipping. Its a much better and less drawn out story, for instance there are many other complete AU remakes that go as long and as deeply as HPMOR. However, HPMOR doesn't have the vast amount of fluff and filler that many of the 6/7 multipart fics seem to have(barring SA which I enjoyed greatly).
SA?
Self-Actualization.
The difference is primarily one of quality. Time Braid is excellent, provided one is willing to accept the rewritten cosmology, while Chunin Exam Day is pretty much universally considered to be refuse.
I'm still not sure what specifically is wrong with PKH. The first chapter looks interesting so far...
I actually found it fairly enjoyable as well for the first few chapters. I didn't realize how much I hated it until I came to <rot13>Qhzoyrqber'f guvegrragu Ubepehk</rot13>.
Of course, the mere existence of that spoiler may make you want to read more just to find out how on earth such a thing could happen.
Good prediction.
Yes, and be glad of it.
Yeah, was that a Partially Kissed Hero reference?
For that matter, from what source was "the Ree" drawn? Totoro's from a Miyazaki movie...
DO NOT SPEAK THE NAME
The Ree are from Nobody Dies, a Neon Genesis Evangelion fanfiction.
And Hogwarts has ventilation ducts large enough to fit a basilisk!
Snakes can get through spaces much smaller than it looks like they should be able to. It doesn't seem ruled out that a magic snake can do that to a greater extent. So this implies big ductwork but not enormous ductwork.
In fairness, circulating air in a castle whose geometry is best represented by an arbitrarily connected graph (not necessarily acyclic), is a non-trivial engineering challenge. After a few student asphyxiated, they may just have gone a little overboard.
I now declare this to be MoR!canon. (That large magical dwellings in general have large highly-connected, possibly magical air-ducts, by tradition, to prevent the occasional cases where somebody asphyxiated; and that Salazar used this as his excuse for why Hogwarts's ventilation ducts had to be so large.)
Aguamenti creates water out of nothing, which you can drink. The Bubble-Head Charm could, in theory, work some way other than creating thin air out of thin air, but personally I doubt it does.
Ha!
I initially wrote 'create breathable air out of thin air' and then couldn't resist.
I never, in Canon, got quite such an impression of Eerie Alien Geometries from the castle as I do in MoR. Thankfully Event Horizon hadn't come out in 1991, or I'd wager a lot of Muggleborns would be very uncomfortable in the upper floors.
The ventilation ducts in large buildings are roughly 1m^2 in cross-sectional area, branching out to ducts that are roughly.1m^2 in cross-sectional area.
A python is 6 meters long and has a cross-sectional area of .015m^2. Assuming the aspect ratio of the snake body stays roughly constant, a basilisk is 15 meters long, and would have a cross-sectional area of .094m^2. Barely enough to through ventilation ducts.
I think basiliks are a little thicker than pythons (from the second movie) and much longer than 15 m (from awesomeness).