mjr comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 13, chapter 81 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: mjr 28 March 2012 02:01:38PM 5 points [-]

I rate it likely that she'll read it. Unlikely she'll babble. But she's no Occlumens. (She should strive to be real quick, though.)

Comment author: anotherblackhat 28 March 2012 06:22:07PM *  0 points [-]

Read it? Probably.

Understand it despite the Interdict of Merlin? Not so sure.

Comment author: bogdanb 28 March 2012 09:07:54PM *  7 points [-]

(1) She already knows how a Patronus is cast, she just can’t do it yet.

(2) The text Harry gave Hermione is not actually teaching a spell. It is a cryptically-written secret about what Dementors are and what the charm does, not how to cast it. Knowing the secret will allow her to discover the new Patronus, not teach it to her.

Comment author: Alex_Altair 28 March 2012 06:22:09PM 0 points [-]

What note is this?

Comment author: TimS 28 March 2012 06:31:18PM *  2 points [-]

After Hermione failed to make a Patronus and Harry realized how to make a super-Patronus, he gave he a note telling her how to figure out super-Patronus so she wouldn't think she was evil. But he warned her that there were consequences for reading the note, so she decided not to.

Edit: Here it is, in the aftermath.

Comment author: Alejandro1 28 March 2012 08:26:04PM 4 points [-]

From that note:

But if you ever need to fight Dementors, the secret is written here, cryptically, so that if someone doesn't know it's about Dementors and the Patronus Charm, they won't know what it means...

Shouldn't Hermione have read that note the moment she realized she would be arrested and had a chance of being sent to Azkaban?

Comment author: TimS 28 March 2012 08:40:48PM *  7 points [-]

Given that Hermione's recent mental processes have essentially been put through a cheese shredder by various magic spells, I'm not sure such a moment actually occurred.

Comment author: Percent_Carbon 29 March 2012 05:45:49AM 1 point [-]

If she had, the Veratiserum would have forced her to volunteer that information. She was being asked about her actions before and after allegedly attempting to kill Draco. If it is the memebomb some of us think it to be, it would have come up since then.

If that secret gets out, it has to happen in a relatively controlled fashion, for story reasons. Dumbledore can't find out about it, because he has to keep is patronus so it can recognize Harry's.

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