buybuydandavis comments on Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality discussion thread, part 13, chapter 81 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: buybuydandavis 28 March 2012 07:08:39PM 4 points [-]

One thing I noticed about Harry's language - increasing talk in computer terms. PC, SYSTEM ERROR, Internal Consistency Checker.

His Dark Side is tremendously efficient at information recall and causal inference. Interesting that Quirrell remarked on the value of memory recall to a wizard. I've wondered if the Dark Side was just an interface to a computing system, but it's clear that's not all that it is.

It seems like the Dark Side is two things, an efficient computation engine, and the dark emotions related to Death: the terror and hatred. Why are those linked? Why does a computation and recall engine have to be linked to emotions at all, and if it's going to be emotions, why not positive Mr. Glowy Person feelings?

Comment author: pedanterrific 28 March 2012 07:17:11PM 14 points [-]

PC means Player Character in this instance.

Comment author: Alex_Altair 29 March 2012 01:15:39AM 1 point [-]

That would explain a lot, but

He is a PC, and they are wallpaper.

is "wallpaper" also a similar term? Or is EY just referring to literal wallpaper? Either way the combination is pretty misleading.

Comment author: Nornagest 29 March 2012 02:55:56AM 4 points [-]

Probably meant to indicate an unremarkable element of the background. I can't think of a suitable term that would extend the roleplaying game metaphor; "extras" is about as close as I can get, but I don't think I've ever actually seen it used in a gaming context.

Comment author: pedanterrific 29 March 2012 04:49:44AM *  3 points [-]

But every time you talk about following rules or relying on teachers, I get that same feeling, like it's bound up with this one last thing that's stopping you, one last thing that puts your PC self to sleep and turns you into an NPC again..."

Wallpaper would be one step below NPC, presumably. But yeah, it's mixing metaphors a bit.

Comment author: gwern 28 March 2012 10:35:26PM 0 points [-]

Why does a computation and recall engine have to be linked to emotions at all, and if it's going to be emotions, why not positive Mr. Glowy Person feelings?

There's always the old intelligence implies belligerence school of thought.

Comment author: tadrinth 29 March 2012 08:42:56PM 0 points [-]

The dark side is presumably the result of the botched Horcrux creation ritual and is in some way an aspect of Voldermort's mind or soul. An AI might have different modules for emotions and computation, but a human mind is not so cleanly separated.